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		<title>By: Kyle Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it didn&#039;t turn out to be a mini USB. The plug is about the same size as the socket, and slightly different inside. I&#039;ve put up some pictures at http://www.flickr.com/photos/kylegordon/sets/72157623168052562/ - the new mini at the bottom, the original in the middle, and the board at the top.

I downloaded the USB specifications from http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_20_122909-2.zip and discovered in Micro-USB_1_01.pdf that the micro-A plug is 6.85mm by 1.8mm, and the micro-B is 6.85mm by 1.8mm, with chamfered edges. This damned thing is 5mm by 3mm.

I couldn&#039;t find the designs specs for the mini-USB plugs, but from all the photos and the many that I have here, the mini-USB plugs are much larger, and all have chamfered edges.

Sod it, I&#039;ll just solder the cable on :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-mailto+http:sha1:96a27651200c6e5288ba33991ad6d88614fb2189'>Well, it didn&#8217;t turn out to be a mini USB. The plug is about the same size as the socket, and slightly different inside. I&#8217;ve put up some pictures at <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kylegordon/sets/72157623168052562/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/kylegordon/sets/72157623168052562/</a> &#8211; the new mini at the bottom, the original in the middle, and the board at the top.</p>
<p>I downloaded the USB specifications from <a href="http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_20_122909-2.zip" rel="nofollow">http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_20_122909-2.zip</a> and discovered in Micro-USB_1_01.pdf that the micro-A plug is 6.85mm by 1.8mm, and the micro-B is 6.85mm by 1.8mm, with chamfered edges. This damned thing is 5mm by 3mm.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t find the designs specs for the mini-USB plugs, but from all the photos and the many that I have here, the mini-USB plugs are much larger, and all have chamfered edges.</p>
<p>Sod it, I&#8217;ll just solder the cable on <img src='http://lodge.glasgownet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </div>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
		<link>http://lodge.glasgownet.com/2009/12/25/usb-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-14641</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it might be a micro, but the micro is a lot slimmer than this one. Standards... I love the variety of them :-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-mailto+http:sha1:96a27651200c6e5288ba33991ad6d88614fb2189'>I thought it might be a micro, but the micro is a lot slimmer than this one. Standards&#8230; I love the variety of them :-/</div>
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		<title>By: mrben</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like a micro-B to me, looking at the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_connector#Connector_types</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-mailto+http:sha1:9b4e0499504d9d793847b9c9c4a89e0313afe487'>Looks like a micro-B to me, looking at the wikipedia page <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_connector#Connector_types" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_connector#Connector_types</a></div>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
		<link>http://lodge.glasgownet.com/2009/12/25/usb-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-14633</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mgdm gave the game away when he linked to http://www.cypressindustries.com/mini_usb_4p_connector.html It would seem to be a mini USB 4P variant. Same name, different form factor. Clever stuff... :-/

A cable is only 3 quid on ebay, so I&#039;ll head down that route. It&#039;s to be connected to a computer by USB instead of a microcontroller, so I have to stick with having a plug on the other end. Hardwiring a cable onto it was going to be the last solution :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-mailto+http:sha1:96a27651200c6e5288ba33991ad6d88614fb2189'>mgdm gave the game away when he linked to <a href="http://www.cypressindustries.com/mini_usb_4p_connector.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cypressindustries.com/mini_usb_4p_connector.html</a> It would seem to be a mini USB 4P variant. Same name, different form factor. Clever stuff&#8230; :-/</p>
<p>A cable is only 3 quid on ebay, so I&#8217;ll head down that route. It&#8217;s to be connected to a computer by USB instead of a microcontroller, so I have to stick with having a plug on the other end. Hardwiring a cable onto it was going to be the last solution <img src='http://lodge.glasgownet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </div>
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		<title>By: Gordonjcp</title>
		<link>http://lodge.glasgownet.com/2009/12/25/usb-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-14632</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordonjcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many pins for mini-B.

Why not just do away with the silly proprietary connector and hardwire a cable on?  Do you even need the USB bit if you&#039;re connecting it to a microcontroller?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-mailto+http:sha1:7ce78926baec39a20dbc7744b7013ac4f2acb41c'>Too many pins for mini-B.</p>
<p>Why not just do away with the silly proprietary connector and hardwire a cable on?  Do you even need the USB bit if you&#8217;re connecting it to a microcontroller?</p></div>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost agreed, and then I went to have a look at http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/img/usb.jpg :-)

The mini-B has the angled protruding corners like its counterpart, but mine doesn&#039;t. Still stumped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-mailto+http:sha1:96a27651200c6e5288ba33991ad6d88614fb2189'>I almost agreed, and then I went to have a look at <a href="http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/img/usb.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/img/usb.jpg</a> <img src='http://lodge.glasgownet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The mini-B has the angled protruding corners like its counterpart, but mine doesn&#8217;t. Still stumped!</p></div>
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		<title>By: pickle</title>
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		<dc:creator>pickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a mini-B type. As opposed to the mini-A type that is in the same picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-mailto+http:sha1:c787c544f85520b25d0d68f8d8cef17a6fec60cf'>It&#8217;s a mini-B type. As opposed to the mini-A type that is in the same picture.</div>
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